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		<title>Gurteen Knowledge Cafe: Ethics</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the exceptionally ethical Pervasive Media Studio, Bristol, on Thursday February 11th, from 18:30. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt as usual. It will be introduced by Andy Wistreich from Essential Education, who has kindly offered to raise the topic of &#8216;Ethics&#8217;. [...]]]></description>
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<p>The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the exceptionally ethical <a title="Pervasive Media Studio website" href="http://www.pmstudio.co.uk/">Pervasive Media Studio</a>, Bristol, on <strong>Thursday February 11th, from 18:30</strong>. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt as usual.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p>It will be introduced by Andy Wistreich from <a title="Essential Education website" href="http://www.essential-education.org/">Essential Education</a>, who has kindly offered to raise the topic of &#8216;Ethics&#8217;. This is an important, complex and often problematic issue for the individual and society.  By sharing our perspectives we can all learn something to help us in our ethical challenges.</div>
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<p>Here&#8217;s the blurb:</p>
<blockquote><p>It looks like ethics is about right and wrong, but it is never black and white.  For me the fundamental issue is motivation – why do or not do something?  I am also interested in the fact that laws and ethical codes seem to come from out there in society whereas our choices about how to behave seem to be made in here in our minds.  Again, this is not a simple division.  I’ll try to introduce these general points in the intro and then people can take it where they want with examples from their own work and practice.</p></blockquote>
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<p>As usual, please come along and enjoy while meeting and deepening your understanding of this topic, and book yourself in using the event booking page below.</p>
<p>If you want to stay up to date via the email distribution list, the link follows, and if you’re a facebook kind of person, Michael Corbett is the man behind the Bristol K-cafe group and is usually around for a good conversation…</p>
<p><a title="eventbrite website" href="http://bgc-ethics.eventbrite.com/">Event booking and venue information link</a></p>
<p><a title="Mailing list for Gurteen Bristol k-cafes" href="http://lists.edmitchell.co.uk/listinfo.cgi/gurteeen-knowledge-cafe-bristol-edmitchell.co.uk">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe mailing list link</a></p>
<p><a title="Bristol k-cafe FB group link" href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=7366082575">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe Facebook group</a></div>
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		<title>Gurteen Knowledge Cafe: language and leadership</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the leading edge Pervasive Media Studio, Bristol, on Thursday November 26th, from 18:30. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt as usual. Introduced by Mike Zeidler, facilitator, coach and connector, driving force behind the Bristol Hub, Association of Sustainability Practitioners and more. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the leading edge <a title="Pervasive Media Studio website" href="http://www.pmstudio.co.uk/">Pervasive Media Studio</a>, Bristol, on <strong>Thursday November 26th, from 18:30</strong>. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt as usual.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p>Introduced by Mike Zeidler, facilitator, coach and connector, driving force behind the Bristol Hub, Association of Sustainability Practitioners and more.</p>
<p>Our subject is &#8216;language and leadership&#8217;. Here&#8217;s the blurb:</p>
<blockquote><p>Words send men to war, make stocks and shares plunge or rocket and can completely change the feel of almost any situation.  Many leaders feel safer with facts, figures and physical materials because feelings are soft and fluffy.  Nothing could be further from the truth. Mike will be talking about the immense power of language, and how skillful use can make leaders of us all.  If that sounds like a recipe for chaos to you, you should definitely come along..!</p></blockquote>
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<p>As usual, please come along and enjoy while meeting and deepening your understanding of this topic, and book yourself in using the event booking page below.</p>
<p>If you want to stay up to date via the email distribution list, the link follows, and if you’re a facebook kind of person, Michael Corbett is the man behind the Bristol K-cafe group and is usually around for a good conversation…</p>
<p><a title="eventbrite website" href="http://bgc-language.eventbrite.com/">Event booking and venue information link</a></p>
<p><a title="Mailing list for Gurteen Bristol k-cafes" href="http://lists.edmitchell.co.uk/listinfo.cgi/gurteeen-knowledge-cafe-bristol-edmitchell.co.uk">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe mailing list link</a></p>
<p><a title="Bristol k-cafe FB group link" href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=7366082575">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe Facebook group</a></p>
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		<title>Knowledge Cafe Report: Reslience</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a brief report on our Bristol Knowledge Cafe on &#8216;Reslience&#8217;, kindly introduced by Phillipa Bayley, keenly discussed by about 30 of us, space kindly lent by the ever effervescent Pervasive Media Studio. Ciaran, Tim, Michael and Philippa kindly wrote up some of their reflections which I include along with my own. Phillipa gave [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a brief report on our Bristol Knowledge Cafe on &#8216;Reslience&#8217;, kindly introduced by Phillipa Bayley, keenly discussed by about 30 of us, space kindly lent by the ever effervescent <a title="Pervasive Media Studio website" href="http://www.pmstudio.co.uk">Pervasive Media Studio</a>.</p>
<p>Ciaran, Tim, Michael and Philippa kindly wrote up some of their reflections which I include along with my own.</p>
<p>Phillipa gave an excellent presentation on the subject, considering some different definitions, the context (from personal to eco-system), whether we can &#8216;build&#8217; it, what the properties of a resilient system could be, and a few further thoughts.</p>
<p>You can see the presentation here:</p>
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<p><em>Write up from Phillipa: </em></p>
<blockquote><p>Ciaran on the tension between building resilient systems that have redundancy, and &#8220;efficient&#8221; systems &#8211; e.g. for power generation.  The argument goes that although micro-generating, distributed systems might be more resilient, they cost twice as much.  But is the real question how you cost these things appropriately?  As with the banking crisis, the cost of fixing everything after the disaster is absolutely enormous.  There&#8217;s also the question of the real environmental costs of building massive power plants, as well as the toll on people&#8217;s lives who live near them etc.</p></blockquote>
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<p><em>Write up from Ciaran: </em></p>
<blockquote><p>We discussed how resilience is an emergent property of well balanced communicative systems and this can be viewed on different levels:</p>
<p>On a personal level resilience requires balance between the conscious will to achieve or act in a certain way and the reflective state of just being and so able to be receptive and allow creative flow.</p>
<p>This second way of being requires inner confidence and/or supportive surroundings where explicit goals or other directive and judgement thinking are not at play. It is this space that allows for the creativity and innovation to emerge.</p>
<p>These two ways of being are reflected at community, organisational and societal levels, but often run counter to the pressure to be more efficient and productive. Similar to the individual, a balanced community for example would include some individuals allowed more time to be reflective whilst others more directive. A balanced society looks for reflective thinking in academic institutions and by supporting diverse artistic communities (the example of Ireland allowing poor artists to pay zero tax was cited). Striking the balance is key to resilience. Too much of one or the other can lead to problems. These different aspects to ourselves and communities etc. need also to be communicating well with each other.</p>
<p>Our group discussed how currently organisations and society generally seems particularly focused on the drive for efficiency and the education system has become increasingly directive, with too little room for more reflection and genuine creativity and diversity. Combined with a narrowing of cultural perspectives due to globalisation of the western socio-economic paradigm, we have been left very rigid and so vulnerable to changes. Examples of how Australian aboriginal culture approaches &#8216;problem solving&#8217; reminded us how there are in fact many other ways to be that we have little or no experience of and we carry many assumptions about what is possible and what will be in the future. We discussed how these assumptions along with our aspirations are looking very shaky if not plain stupid! Paradoxically the times of plenty we have been through that might have offered the greater redundancy for more reflective states of being at all levels, has been somewhat swept aside by a consumer culture which fosters anxiety and lack of self confidence, so not conducive to development of personal or societal resilience.</p>
<p>(<a title="Low Fly Zone website" href="http://www.lowflyzone.org/">Ciaran Mundy</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Write up from Michael: </em></p>
<blockquote><p>Resilience is linked to the esprit de corps (used in the sense of &#8211; common spirit of comradeship, enthusiasm, and devotion to a cause among the members of a group) of the community.  EDC comes from a lot of things including the ideology, the &#8220;community code&#8221; (which dictates how community members treat each other, how they help each other, how they behave, etc), and the ongoing interactions that keep the community alive.</p>
<p>So I think forging a powerful community code is a thing that community leaders need to do (by example, by fiat or whatever) and ensuring that community members have community minded interactions with each other.</p>
<p>(<a title="Product Box website" href="http://productbox.co.uk/">Michael Corbett</a>)</p></blockquote>
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<p><em>Write up from Tim:</em></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Breakout group discussion</strong></p>
<p>For resilience you need slack in any system, otherwise it&#8217;s fragile. There needs to be room and time for experimentation so that adaptability and flexibility can happen.</p>
<p>Robust doesn&#8217;t equal resilient. Robust suggests something won&#8217;t fail. Resilient suggests it can fail and bounce back &#8211; sometimes failure can be good, for development.</p>
<p>Working targets, which are an ubiquitous method now, are about cutting out slack from the system, hence they tend towards eliminating resilience.</p>
<p>Can a system break down and then be rebuilt? Is that resilience?<br />
That&#8217;s not resilience for the system, but could be resilience for a higher level of system containing it.<br />
So we have to be clear what level is our focus within the hierarchy of systems.</p>
<p>Personal resilience is the struggle of Will (or Intention) and Emotion. When we pursue something we use our will to keep our intention and action continuing. When we meet obstacles and failures we often feel discouragement. If our feelings get too negative that drains our energy and saps our will to continue. Philippa&#8217;s slide showed Positivity as a component of resilience.</p>
<p>The word will may suggest a drive towards a goal. If so, intention may be a better word. We always have some intention, even if only to keep behaving according to our own values, which isn&#8217;t goal-focused or active behaviour.</p>
<p>Can resilience be lost? If things are too easy, complacency can lead to loss of responsiveness, like lack of exercise leads to loss of muscle tone.</p>
<p>Action must be balanced by review and reflection &#8211; this is the slack. So there&#8217;s a need for people to ponder and experiment, perhaps even dedicated people for those tasks. The Irish government recognised the value of this to the whole of society and they said so when they stopped artistic vocations being liable for income tax.</p>
<p>Targets and league tables in effect claim to define perfection and how to get there. Setting them implies that reaching or exceeding the targets means reaching the ideal. But having an ideal of perfection leaves no room for innovation and creativity to improve the ideal. So if everyone&#8217;s energies are taken up in meeting targets the system can&#8217;t evolve.</p>
<p>The harder you strive to extend yourself to achieve a hard goal, the less resilient and more vulnerable/fragile you are. The last straw can break your back.</p>
<p><strong>Whole Group Discussion</strong></p>
<p>When a thing is resilient it implies that it continues despite obstacles. But what continues? It&#8217;s not always obvious, especially if there is evolution and adaptation that changes a lot of the original. So there has to be some essence that does continue and is the thing that is resilient.</p>
<p>Castro has been a very resilient dictator. Has that been helped by the tension and opposition from the USA? That very opposition has created activity and strength, like resistance exercises a muscle. Muscles are resilient, but through actively using that resilience they grow more and more resilient. Unused resilience leads to weakness, using it repeatedly leads to strength.</p>
<p>So tension is perhaps a key to resilience. Muscles have tone, which is an optimal level of tension even when relaxed. A cat is the epitome of relaxation yet is ready to spring. A tennis ball is very resilient and can take a lot of challenge yet return to its form and function undamaged &#8211; it&#8217;s the tension inherent in its construction that gives that ability. Perhaps resilience requires plenty of latent &#8216;potential energy&#8217;. Elasticity is resilience.</p>
<p>Ideas and religions can be resilient. They (or some) do compete, evolve and adapt. So they are in tension and face resistance. The idea of memes put ideas into a context of being objects that compete for survival.</p>
<p>Too settled a state leads to loss of resilience, like loss of muscle tone. e.g. Woolworths was once very strong and presumably resilient, enough to fend off all threats. But then its settled state led eventually to it becoming something else &#8211; flabby, rigid, stagnant? &#8211; until it was very vulnerable and collapsed.</p>
<p>Efficiency seems opposite to resilience.</p>
<p>How do you measure resilience?</p>
<p><a title="Tim Sheppard website" href="http://www.timsheppard.co.uk/">(Tim Sheppard</a>)</p></blockquote>
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<p><em>Write up from Ed (that&#8217;s me by the way):</em></p>
<blockquote><p>It was fascinating all the way through, with huge amounts to reflect on and consider. Among many things, what stuck out the most for me was a question raised about the relationship between personal and communal resilience. As well as its relevance to <a title="Transition Towns website" href="http://www.transitiontowns.org/">Transition initiatives</a>, I suspect that this is an important point for <a title="Social Reporter website" href="http://socialreporter.com/?p=656">David Wilcox</a> and the work around <a title="Local communities Ning group" href="http://localcommunities.ning.com/">Local Communities</a>.</p>
<p>With my facilitator hat on, the balance between individual and group dynamics is a core issue for event design, and something I deal with when helping groups identify and achieve their goals. Every event I design tries to take into account that we are all human and not perfect ‘expressors’, indeed that many of us don’t like being in groups, and find the now ubiquitous ‘sharing’ something of a tyranny. In light of this I try to make space for different behaviours; not expecting everyone to behave in the same way. But this isn’t necessarily about ‘resilience’ per se; more a background to the following questions.</p>
<p>A knowledge café attendee once told me that she felt intimidated before coming to a café as she thought that she might look stupid. She is not stupid at all. This response is partly her responsibility about her confidence (as responsible for her self) and mine (as responsible for the group reputation, language and dynamics). This is difficult for her, an issue for me (who wants everyone to be happy all the time – one of my personal issues), and possibly a reflection on this individual/group crossover, and possibly a learning point for the café model and the language used.</p>
<p>This individual confidence issue is touched upon in a recent post from Rob about <a title="Transition culture website" href="http://transitionculture.org/2009/09/22/reflections-on-when-a-transition-initiative-stalls/">Transition Oxford’s story</a>; among other things about people feeling a lack of confidence, and the language used, and I reckon a jump off point for the following questions in my head:</p>
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<li>Is personal resilience a necessary pre-condition for resilient relationships with others (intimately, friendship-ly, and in groups and beyond)?</li>
<li>How can we assess our own personal resilience, and be aware of our strengths and weaknesses when relating to others?</li>
<li>How can we understand the effect we have on our relationships?</li>
<li>Does success as a group rely on each group member being personally resilient?</li>
<li>Or can a group’s structure and dynamics be designed (or emerge) to overcome our individual issues and bring out the best of us?</li>
<li>Is it necessary for a group to have a clear purpose in order to overcome our personal issues?</li>
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<p><em> So more questions than anything else from me then!</em></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>So good work all and particular thanks to Phillipa for speaking, and the contributors for their thoughts above</strong></p>
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		<title>Gurteen Knowledge Cafe: Resilience: dealing with an uncertain future</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the uber-resilient Pervasive Media Studio, Bristol, on Thursday September  17th, from 18:30. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt as usual. Our introductory speaker is Philipa Bayley, acting head of the Centre for Public Engagement, Bristol University (and full on neuro-science doctor [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the uber-resilient <a title="Pervasive Media Studio website" href="http://www.pmstudio.co.uk/">Pervasive Media Studio</a>, Bristol, on <strong>Thursday September  17th, from 18:30</strong>. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt as usual.</p>
<p>Our introductory speaker is Philipa Bayley, acting head of the Centre for Public Engagement, Bristol University (and full on neuro-science doctor geek but don&#8217;t tell her I told you that).</p>
<p>Our subject is &#8216;resilience&#8217;; we will be hearing a lot of this word soon, that&#8217;s a guarantee.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the blurb:</p>
<blockquote><p>None of us knows what the future holds (not even Mystic Meg) but chances are there are some not-too-nice things up ahead.</p>
<p>Whether we&#8217;re thinking about the challenges that individuals, communities or nations face, resilience is about how we deal with those challenges and not only bounce back, but &#8216;bounce up&#8217;.</p>
<p>Come and discuss what makes people and organisations resilient, and how we might build that capacity in from the start.</p></blockquote>
<p>As usual, please come along and enjoy while meeting and deepening your understanding of this topic, and book yourself in using the event booking page below.</p>
<p>If you want to stay up to date via the email distribution list, the link follows, and if you&#8217;re a facebook kind of person, Michael Corbett is the man behind the Bristol K-cafe group and is usually around for a good conversation&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://bgc-resilience.eventbrite.com/">Event booking and venue information link</a></p>
<p><a title="Mailing list for Gurteen Bristol k-cafes" href="http://lists.edmitchell.co.uk/listinfo.cgi/gurteeen-knowledge-cafe-bristol-edmitchell.co.uk">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe mailing list link</a></p>
<p><a title="Bristol k-cafe FB group link" href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=7366082575">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe Facebook group</a></p>
<p>Some other handy links:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resilience">Definition of resilience on wikipedia</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.energybulletin.net/49830">Interesting piece from Dave Pollard on resilience</a></p>
<div class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 510px"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3578/3838887349_e7d459a1c8.jpg" alt="jellyfish on flickr" width="500" height="375" /><p class="wp-caption-text">jellyfish on flickr</p></div>
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		<title>Gurteen K-cafe report: Generosity, 04/02/09</title>
		<link>http://www.edmitchell.co.uk/blog/2009/02/10/gurteen-k-cafe-report-generosity-040209/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[February&#8217;s Bristol Gurteen Knowledge cafe was a heart warming eye in the storm of some very exciting UK winter weather. Steve Bridger gave us a great presentation around and about the subject of Generosity which left us with plenty to think about, personally, publicly and professionally. And Jesus&#8217; social network, but that&#8217;s another story&#8230; After [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>February&#8217;s Bristol Gurteen Knowledge cafe was a heart warming eye in the storm of some very exciting UK winter weather.</p>
<p><a title="Steve Bridger website" href="http://www.stevebridger.com">Steve Bridger</a> gave us a great presentation around and about the subject of Generosity which left us with plenty to think about, personally, publicly and professionally. And Jesus&#8217; social network, but that&#8217;s another story&#8230;</p>
<p>After a whistle stop tour ranging from big brands to personal sharing, religion to altruism, giving to taking, he left us with six things to think about:</p>
<ol>
<li>Start with people</li>
<li>We are what we share</li>
<li>Is the social web making weak ties stronger than blood ties?</li>
<li>Successful brands are exceptionally generous</li>
<li>Create experiences that mirror people&#8217;s aspirations</li>
<li>Do we need new metrics for generosity?</li>
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<div id="__ss_996941" style="width: 425px; text-align: left;"><a style="font:14px Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;display:block;margin:12px 0 3px 0;text-decoration:underline;" title="Generosity" href="http://www.slideshare.net/mexicanwave/generosity?type=presentation">Generosity</a><object width="425" height="355" data="http://static.slideshare.net/swf/ssplayer2.swf?doc=generosity-1233919765842040-2&amp;stripped_title=generosity" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://static.slideshare.net/swf/ssplayer2.swf?doc=generosity-1233919765842040-2&amp;stripped_title=generosity" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /></object></p>
<div style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,arial; height: 26px; padding-top: 2px;">View more <a style="text-decoration:underline;" href="http://www.slideshare.net/">presentations</a> from <a style="text-decoration:underline;" href="http://www.slideshare.net/mexicanwave">mexicanwave</a>. (tags: <a style="text-decoration:underline;" href="http://slideshare.net/tag/generosity">generosity</a> <a style="text-decoration:underline;" href="http://slideshare.net/tag/kindness">kindness</a>)</div>
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<p>There was a lot of discussion about society and culture, sharing in general and our expectations of selves and other. <a title="Wikipedia link to Maslow's hierachy" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs">Maslow&#8217;s hierachy of needs</a> came up along with some clarity about the term &#8216;<a title="Wikipedia link to survival of the fittest" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_of_the_fittest">survival of the fittest</a>&#8216; (whereby it could be said that the Capitalist hegemony related the term &#8216;fittest&#8217; to a blindly competitive theme rather than &#8216;that which is most suitable to its context&#8217;, which gives it a very different feel:</p>
<blockquote><p>What&#8217;s more, although the phrase conjures up an image of a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPtRohwHMB4" target="ns">violent struggle for survival</a>, in reality the word &#8220;fittest&#8221; seldom means the strongest or the most aggressive. On the contrary, it can mean anything from the best camouflaged or the most fecund to <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg15621054.800-the-unselfish-gene.html">the cleverest</a> or the most cooperative. Forget Rambo, think Einstein or Gandhi.<a title="New Scientist article" href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13671-evolution-myths-survival-of-the-fittest-justifies-everyone-for-themselves.html"><em><br />
(New Scientist article: Evolution myths)</em></a></p></blockquote>
<p>We thought about why we give to charity, the implications of dis-intermediatory bodies like <a title="Kiva website" href="http://www.kiva.org">Kiva</a>, <a title="Freecycle website" href="http://www.freecycle.org/">Freecycle</a>, <a title="Sw0p website" href="http://sw0p.com/">Swop</a>, <a title="School of Everything" href="http://www.schoolofeverything.com">School of Everything</a> etc., whether big corporations actually can give, why, and what that means.</p>
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<p>People explored how &#8216;brands&#8217; could be generous, what impact that might have on &#8216;competition&#8217; and &#8216;control&#8217;, and what it was that people were being generous with, and why.</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the implications for the world when my &#8216;generous&#8217; act of sharing a photo means a professional photographer doesn&#8217;t get any money for producing a better one?</li>
<li>Is &#8216;mega-corp multinational&#8217; really being generous when it shares some of its codebase with a developer community, or simply sensible (and resourcing cheap innovation)?</li>
<li>If we have a &#8216;competition commission&#8217;, are they the good guys or the bad guys?</li>
<li>Can our market model exist side by side with a culture of &#8216;we are what we share&#8217;?</li>
<li>If someone does what could be seen as a generous act for selfish reasons, does that make it less generous in outcome?</li>
</ul>
<p>It seems we&#8217;re not alone in pondering this subject. On a corporate note, an interesting article appeared about this very subject:</p>
<blockquote><p>Has it ever been important for corporations to ditch the greed and embrace generosity? It&#8217;s something that countless individuals have already started doing, of course: giving is the new taking, and sharing is the new giving. And yes, we do realize that this month&#8217;s Trend Briefing is massive, but in this business climate, can you really afford not to spend some time figuring out how to get a little closer to your customers?&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>GENERATION G</strong> | &#8220;Captures the growing importance of &#8216;generosity&#8217; as a leading societal and business mindset. As consumers are disgusted with greed and its current dire consequences for the economy—and while that same upheaval has them longing more than ever for institutions that care—the need for more generosity beautifully coincides with the ongoing (and pre-recession) emergence of an online-fueled culture of individuals who share, give, engage, create and collaborate in large numbers.</p>
<p>In fact, for many, sharing a passion and receiving recognition have replaced &#8216;taking&#8217; as the new status symbol. Businesses should follow this societal/behavioral shift, however much it may oppose their decades-old devotion to me, myself and I.”<br />
<a title="Trendwatching website" href="http://www.trendwatching.com/trends/generationg"><em>(Trendwatch article on Generation G)</em></a></p></blockquote>
<p>The resounding note for me was that it is easiest and most rational to share within the boundaries of our &#8216;communities&#8217; (however they are described), and sharing between them would involve some form of exchange. As ever, the issue of trust came up, and how we define our boundaries (which reflect our intentions, which define what we can and can&#8217;t share).</p>
<p>As ever, thanks to <a title="Pervasive Media Studio website" href="http://www.pmstudio.co.uk">The Pervasive Media Studio</a>, for their kind loan of the excellent space, and all attendees who came and had a good think together.</p>
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		<title>Gurteen Knowledge Cafe Bristol: Generosity: 4 February</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the ever-generous Pervasive Media Studio, Bristol, on Wednesday 4th February, from 18:30. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt. Steve Bridger, local k-cafe member and &#8216;Chief Generosity Officer&#8217; (with almost 20 years of work within and consulting to the charity sector) will [...]]]></description>
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<p>The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the ever-generous <a title="Pervasive Media Studio website" href="http://www.pmstudio.co.uk">Pervasive Media Studio</a>, Bristol, on <strong>Wednesday 4th February, from 18:30</strong>. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt.</p>
<p><a title="Steve Bridger website" href="http://www.stevebridger.com">Steve Bridger</a>, local k-cafe member and &#8216;Chief Generosity Officer&#8217; (with almost 20 years of work within and consulting to the charity sector) will be sharing his thoughts on the subject with us before we get into discussion.</p>
<p>As usual, please come along and enjoy while meeting and deepening your understanding of this topic, and book yourself in using the event booking page below:</p>
<p><a title="eventwax booking site: k-cafe february 2009" href="http://bristolgurteenkcafes.eventwax.com/generosity-">Event booking and venue information link</a></p>
<p><a title="Mailing list for Gurteen Bristol k-cafes" href="http://lists.edmitchell.co.uk/listinfo.cgi/gurteeen-knowledge-cafe-bristol-edmitchell.co.uk">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe mailing list link</a></p>
<p><a title="Bristol k-cafe FB group link" href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=7366082575">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe Facebook group</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy Birthday to David Gurteen, and his old but never jaded newsletter. One is 100 and the other is 60. Ever since I was first pointed to him (as &#8216;the competition&#8217; no less), we have had what I consider to be open, interesting, honest, learning conversations. The topics and deals range from business to life, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Birthday to <a title="Gurteen website" href="http://www.gurteen.com/gurteen/gurteen.nsf/id/about-dg">David Gurteen</a>, and his old but never jaded newsletter. One is 100 and the other is 60.</p>
<p>Ever since I was first pointed to him (as &#8216;the competition&#8217; no less), we have had what I consider to be open, interesting, honest, learning conversations. The topics and deals range from business to life, banner swaps, conference seats, cafes, money and knowledge, all based on a thoughtful trust. I have benefited enormously from my relationship with him and hope there is mutuality.</p>
<p>One of his r<a title="Gurteen website" href="http://www.gurteen.com/gurteen/gurteen.nsf/id/is-it-ethical">ecent blog posts</a> considering a <a title="Anecdote website" href="http://www.anecdote.com.au/archives/2008/10/in_storytelling.html">post by Shawn Callahan</a>, featured in his centenary <a title="Gurteen website" href="http://www.gurteen.com/gurteen/gurteen.nsf/id/knowledge-letter">newsletter</a>, is a cracking example of David&#8217;s life view. It is about networking (which I have been known to be somewhat negative about in the past, ahem), and the ethics therein:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;Some people falsely see networking as unethical as they seem to think that networking is about making friends with other people for personal gain &#8211; they don&#8217;t quite understand that although its possible to behave like that &#8211; genuine networkers approach networking with a mindset of &#8220;mutual advantage&#8221; &#8211; they as much want to help the other person as they wish for help from them&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;It seems to me that we all have agendas; we all have the need, for good or for bad, to influence people; to get their buy-in on an idea or to obtain budget or resource from them. If we wish to get things done in life then we need to be good at gaining the support we need&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;But is persuasion or influence, inherently manipulative and unethical? Well of course not; so much depends on the intent. `But what is the yardstick? How do you question yourself to determine if you are being unethical or not?&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="Gurteen website" href="http://www.gurteen.com/gurteen/gurteen.nsf/id/is-it-ethical">Gurteen post on ethics</a></p>
<p>Considering my relationship with David, he walks his talk, and sets an example for the rest of us. I&#8217;m not saying he&#8217;s some &#8216;guru&#8217; (ghastly word) &#8211; he&#8217;s just a guy, getting on with his life, in an ethical and generous manner.</p>
<p>This has given me wholesome food for thought and is one part of a puzzle which is coming together for me at this very moment. I will do my utmost to maintain my optimism.</p>
<p>Thanks David and Happy Birthday!</p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial;"> </span></span></p>
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		<title>Gurteen Knowledge Cafe: Storytelling: 27 November</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the multi-disciplinary Pervasive Media Studio, Bristol, on Thursday 27 November, from 18:30. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt. Tim Sheppard, local storytelling group member, will be introducing the subject before we get down to the serious k-cafe business as usual. If [...]]]></description>
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<p>The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the multi-disciplinary <a title="Pervasive Media Studio page" href="http://www.ished.net/projects/pervasive-media-studio/">Pervasive Media Studio</a>, Bristol, on <strong>Thursday 27 November, from 18:30</strong>. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt.</p>
<p><a title="Tim Sheppard website" href="http://www.timsheppard.co.uk/story/">Tim Sheppard</a>, local storytelling group member, will be introducing the subject before we get down to the serious k-cafe business as usual.</p>
<p>If you have any specific interests, please let us know. Tim got some feedback in the pub after our last gathering, but if you feel the urge to share some more with him, please <a title="Gurteen wiki page" href="http://edmitchell.wikispaces.com/Gurteen">add your thoughts to the wiki page</a>.</p>
<p>As usual, please come along and enjoy while meeting and deepening your understanding of this topic, and book yourself in using the event booking page below:</p>
<p><a title="Event booking page on event wax" href="http://bristolgurteenkcafes.eventwax.com/story-telling">Event booking and venue information link</a></p>
<p><a title="Tim Sheppard website" href="http://www.timsheppard.co.uk/story/">Tim Sheppard website link</a></p>
<p><a title="Gurteen wiki page" href="http://edmitchell.wikispaces.com/Gurteen">Storytelling wiki page for you to add any requests</a></p>
<p><a title="Mailing list for Gurteen Bristol k-cafes" href="http://lists.edmitchell.co.uk/listinfo.cgi/gurteeen-knowledge-cafe-bristol-edmitchell.co.uk">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe mailing list link</a></p>
<p><a title="Gurteen website" href="http://www.gurteen.com/gurteen/gurteen.nsf/id/S976348/">Event page on Gurteen website</a></p>
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		<title>Bristol Gurteen K-cafe report: Engagement</title>
		<link>http://www.edmitchell.co.uk/blog/2008/09/12/bristol-gurteen-k-cafe-report-engagement/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About 20 of us met up in the Pervasive Media Studio on the 11th September to discuss &#8216;Engagement&#8217;. Jack Martin Leith gave a highly thought provoking 15 minute presentation on the subject covering a range of angles as broad as the history of PR to inter-personal relationships, and how &#8216;Engagement&#8217; covers so many bases. Discussions [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 20 of us met up in the Pervasive Media Studio on the 11th September to discuss &#8216;Engagement&#8217;.</p>
<p><a title="Jack Martin Leith's website" href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=1041">Jack Martin Leith</a> gave a highly thought provoking 15 minute presentation on the subject covering a range of angles as broad as the history of PR to inter-personal relationships, and how &#8216;Engagement&#8217; covers so many bases.</p>
<p>Discussions ranged from the highly emotional and personal meaning of engagement to employee engagement, stakeholder engagement, its roots and uses by different groups. Great stuff. Well done all!</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="K-cafe participants" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3180/2849881199_2616ec3f82.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="375" /></p>
<p>&#8230; And here is a picture from &#8216;Third Sector&#8217; magazine of the new Pudsey Bear logo, &#8216;designed to engage a new generation of supporters&#8217;&#8230; with a megaphone! I am sure Jack would see the funny side:</p>
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<p><strong>The next Bristol Gurteen K-cafe will be on the subject of story-telling, in late November.</strong></p>
<p><strong>To stay informed of Bristol Gurteen k-cafe announcements, <a title="Mailing list for Gurteen Bristol k-cafes" href="http://lists.edmitchell.co.uk/listinfo.cgi/gurteeen-knowledge-cafe-bristol-edmitchell.co.uk">please join the mailing list</a></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the beautiful Pervasive Media Studio, Bristol, on Thursday 11 September, from 18:30. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt. Jack Martin Leith (our local &#8216;now-to-new&#8217; activist, group facilitator, and business consultant of 20 years) will be introducing us to the subject of [...]]]></description>
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<p>The next Gurteen Bristol Knowledge Cafe is going to be held in the beautiful <a title="Pervasive Media Studio page" href="http://www.ished.net/projects/pervasive-media-studio/">Pervasive Media Studio</a>, Bristol, on <strong>Thursday 11 September, from 18:30</strong>. The cafe proper will begin at 19:00 prompt.</p>
<p><a title="Jack Martin Leith's website" href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com">Jack Martin Leith</a> (our local &#8216;now-to-new&#8217; activist, group facilitator, and business consultant of 20 years) will be introducing us to the subject of &#8216;Engagement&#8217;. This a term we&#8217;ve all heard before (quite a lot now), and perhaps wondered what we all mean by it, so we&#8217;re going to give it a try, knowledge cafe style.</p>
<p>As usual, please come along and enjoy while meeting and deepening your understanding of this topic, and book yourself in using the event booking page below:</p>
<p><a title="Event booking page on event wax" href="http://bristolgurteenkcafes.eventwax.com/engagement">Event booking and venue information link</a></p>
<p><a title="Mailing list for Gurteen Bristol k-cafes" href="http://lists.edmitchell.co.uk/listinfo.cgi/gurteeen-knowledge-cafe-bristol-edmitchell.co.uk">Bristol Gurteen Knowledge Cafe mailing list link</a></p>
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